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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #120 on: 01/20/09 at 13:19:21 » |
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Man… that's a relief… I was thinking you were dumping this on me also. I’m bored, but I’m not that bored.
Those are some cool pictures, if during your translations you find were they’re from let us know.
And what do you mean “Peninsula”?… it's the Extremadura: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremadura
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #121 on: 01/20/09 at 16:27:54 » |
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Nice pictures. THe first one reminds me of the owlbear
BTW I think the most detailed page about Asturian stuff is this page.
http://www.sidreria.com/portal/asturias/mitologia/index.asp
With quite long articles on the different critters
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #122 on: 01/20/09 at 19:15:02 » |
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Yeah, ignore the "Peninsula" part--I didn't have a clue what "Extremadura" was so I took a wild guess. A very, very wrong wild guess. 
Anyway, the artist of the Castellano creatures is "Makimaus", but so far I haven't had any luck figuring out who that really is or where they're from.
Mouryo: The Bu reminded me of the owlbear too! I think that's what the artist was going for. About that Asturian website...one of us will get to it when we're done with the other Spanish and Brazilian pages. You're too quick at finding new information!
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #123 on: 01/22/09 at 03:21:13 » |
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Sorry, but sometimes I can not help myself. When I read stuff about such critters I get exited and want to know everything about them. So I start searching for information.
I also think that it its better for me to search now than later ( because later it is possible I will forget about it)
So I think the more info the better and start searching
BTW: Somebody has described me as an internet bloodhound because of mt tendancy to find all the links.
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #126 on: 01/23/09 at 08:40:38 » |
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okay, the pag is rather a report about a journey through Asturia. It is called in the realm of the nuberu. The trasgu character gives some infos about Asturia in general.
They`ve reported that somebody has painted over the streetsigns and the trasgu admits that he wouldn`t do such thing only the dianu burlon would. Later the author of the page said that in Ribadesella they had display boards with info about the nuberu, xana and trasgu. the description isn`t different from the info we have in here.
links again  
http://www.geocities.com/bruxas_astur/
http://menti.iespana.es/
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #127 on: 01/23/09 at 13:25:06 » |
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I think we're doing pretty well with Asturian (and Cantabrian) monsters. Could you look for other areas of Spain, such as Galicia and the parts we haven't covered yet? If you don't remember what all the areas of Spain are, just check the maps on Wikipedia.
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #129 on: 01/26/09 at 16:21:14 » |
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By the way:
I think somebody has missed La Juáncana de Siete Villas
http://www.cantabriajoven.com/mitologia/
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #130 on: 01/26/09 at 18:31:07 » |
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Cantabria:
La Juáncana de Siete Villas ("the Juáncana (?) of seven towns")
Here lives the fierce Juáncana, a mixture of woman, bear, and goat, with a single eye, very large wings, and enormous breasts that hang back. She leaves flying from her cave to hunt for children, of whom she carries through the air to a summit where she devours them raw. Other times she enjoys urinating from the heights and counting on whom a drop falls on their head, which remains bald without remedy.
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #131 on: 01/26/09 at 19:14:37 » |
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From the Asturian mythology page on the Spanish Wikipedia:
La Coruxa
The lechuza ("owl", specifically from Tytonidae or "earless" Strigidae species), if it lands on or circles the home of a sick person, it means that this person will die. It is also heard in Asturias that this message is carried out by the crow and the raven. Another story has it that the apparition appears among people as a black dog that no one has seen before, which sits in the front of the house of a sick person and starts howling, circles the dwelling, and accompanies them to where they are interred, then disappearing from the place forever. The Coruxa is also one of the forms of the Guaxa.
Lloberu or Llobera (basically, "wolf-child" (male) and "wolf-child" (female))
The Lloberos are men and women who grow up among wolves, arriving(?) to lead the packs. They are distinct from cases of lycanthropy, where the individual becomes a wolf.
(OK, the rest of the Lloberu article was confusing and had nothing to do with them, just with werewolves. All you need to know is that in Asturias, lycanthropy is a curse passed down from fathers to sons for eating raw meat. Well, the Spanish says "raw", but the autotranslator says "too much". After that the werewolf has to go for seven years without eating humans or animals, then he can be free of the curse. This may not have been new to Tomoe, but it was unusual to me.)
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #132 on: 01/27/09 at 05:23:56 » |
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No, it’s pretty new to me too.
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #133 on: 01/31/09 at 11:39:05 » |
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Castile:
Malismos (roughly, "very bad ones")
These troglodyte [cave-dwelling] duendes, called "malismos" or "Mala Cosa" ["bad thing"], are similar to the Nordic trolls. Of ugly features, slobbering, full of hairs that cover the entire body in long, greasy locks, and very aggressive.
They inhabit gloomy caves or dark holes, together with the rest of the nocturnal creatures. Some are in charge of guarding treasures that are underground. They never come to the surface; the light bothers or consumes them. The most dangerous of all the duendes, as they are skilled in witchcraft [brujería].
The caption of the picture on Wikipedia says that they come from Torre de Juan Abad (Ciudad Real).
Picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Malismo-mak.jpg
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #134 on: 01/31/09 at 12:48:31 » |
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Sorry; I'm doing these one at a time because I'm not as familiar with Spanish as I used to be and Portuguese is a lot closer to Spanish than English is.
El Diablo Cojuelo ("the lame devil", where cojuelo comes from the adjective cojo)
The Diablo Cojuelo is a devil that is far from being a malign form; he represents himself as "the most mischievous spirit from hell", bringing his own kind of demoniac headaches. Which, for getting rid of him, you deliver him to the treatment of an astrologer [very confusing phrase here: le entregaron en trato a un “astrólogo”]: Having him shut up in a crystal vessel. It is also said that as an inventor of dances, music, and literature, [he is] of a roguish, satiric character. Being one of the first angels to rise up in the celestial rebellion, he was the first in falling to the infernos, the rest of his "brothers" landing on him. Leaving himself "spoiled" and "more all-important than the hand of God" [“más que todos señalado de la mano de Dios”]. From there comes his nickname of "cojuelo". But for his lameness he is no less fast and agile.
The Diablo Cojuelo is best-known and named in trials, and in literature. The reference to the Diablo Cojuelo is in the majority in the conjurations, invocations, and prayers of the Castilian witches.
Then there's a bunch of stuff on how he appears in Spanish literature and culture, which isn't really relevant here, except that the Diablo Cojuelo has traveled to the Dominican Republic and is now part of the Carnavale in costume form.
Picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Cojuelo-mak.jpg
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #135 on: 02/23/12 at 07:42:30 » |
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I apologize for the forum necromancy here, but this arrived in my mailbox today:
Once I get some free time from my non work related projects I’ll start working on this.
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« Reply #137 on: 03/05/12 at 14:22:29 » |
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I think I took a look at the Castilian mythology section on Wikipedia a few years ago, but I really don’t remember all this stuff. But I have seen those pictures somewhere before… but I don’t remember where.
Anyway, I have a whole new bunch of monster and folklore stuff I collected recently, both from Spain and Portugal. I did some massive research so as I could do a decent job with an essay on the Book of Saint Cyprian I was (and still am) working on.
In the mean time, it has become obvious that I will not be able to take care of these translations just now… sorry; I guess the latest I will do so will be around Easter, which is in about a month anyway.
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Re: Monsters in Spanish Legends
« Reply #138 on: 03/10/12 at 15:49:56 » |
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Mouryo:
I'm taking up Spanish again, so I'm a lot more familiar with the language than I used to be. I can translate stuff from that page if you like. No need for Tomoe to do it all!
Would you like everything translated or just the supernatural creatures?
Also, funny that you mention The Book of Saint Cyprian, Tomoe. I'm currently reading the chapter in Montague Summers' A Popular History of Witchcraft which discusses grimoires, and Il Livro is listed there.
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« Reply #139 on: 03/11/12 at 04:44:49 » |
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That’s interesting… I've been trying to find English books that discuss the Book of Saint Cyprian, outside of the occultist publications, but I could only find Owen Davies’ «Grimoires – a History of Magic Books». Does Summers actually say anything about the book, give any kind of analysis, or does he simply mention it?
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